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[Gordon Waugh]

It seems that a key feature missing in low-end digital consoles is digital control of the head amps. Without digital control, head amp settings can neither be stored/recalled nor controlled via an iPad or computer.

I have two questions. First, I was hoping to get a Presonus, Mackie DL1608 (or other low-end digital console) and control it via an iPad. That is, the console would be on the stage while I am sitting in FOH with my iPad. However, I am afraid I will occasionally need to run to the console to adjust a head amp level. What do you think?

Second, would it substantially increase the cost of a console to add digitally-controlled/recallable head amp settings? I think I would be willing to pay a few hundred dollars more.

[Mac Kerr]

It seems that a key feature missing in low-end digital consoles is digital control of the head amps. Without digital control, head amp settings can neither be stored/recalled nor controlled via an iPad or computer.

I have two questions. First, I was hoping to get a Presonus, Mackie DL1608 (or other low-end digital console) and control it via an iPad. That is, the console would be on the stage while I am sitting in FOH with my iPad. However, I am afraid I will occasionally need to run to the console to adjust a head amp level. What do you think?

Second, would it substantially increase the cost of a console to add digitally-controlled/recallable head amp settings? I think I would be willing to pay a few hundred dollars more.

I can't imagine a riskier undertaking than mixing from FOH on an iPad. I am a happy iPad user, but the response via WiFi does not allow what I consider "mixing", nor is the reliability good enough for show conditions. It is a great tool for setting up, not for letting your whole show ride on.

Mac

[dick rees]

I can't imagine a riskier undertaking than mixing from FOH on an iPad. I am a happy iPad user, but the response via WiFi does not allow what I consider "mixing", nor is the reliability good enough for show conditions. It is a great tool for setting up, not for letting your whole show ride on.

Mac

Big up on that.

[John Roberts {JR}]

It seems that a key feature missing in low-end digital consoles is digital control of the head amps. Without digital control, head amp settings can neither be stored/recalled nor controlled via an iPad or computer.

I have two questions. First, I was hoping to get a Presonus, Mackie DL1608 (or other low-end digital console) and control it via an iPad. That is, the console would be on the stage while I am sitting in FOH with my iPad. However, I am afraid I will occasionally need to run to the console to adjust a head amp level. What do you think?

Second, would it substantially increase the cost of a console to add digitally-controlled/recallable head amp settings? I think I would be willing to pay a few hundred dollars more.

Up until a few years ago there was no off the shelf solutions for digitally controlled mic preamps so it was a relatively expensive feature.. now there are at least two IC companies selling canned solutions, so these will show up in cheaper and cheaper (new) consoles, but they still aren't free.

Good luck...

JR

[Jason Lucas]

I agree with Mac.

By head amps, are you referring to the mic preamps? I apologize but I've only been a part of the audio world for about 3 years and some terms tend to go over my head.

I know the Roland V-mixer series has remote control of mic preamps (and also supports ipad control) but it's in the $10k+ range.

[Kent Thompson]

I can't imagine a riskier undertaking than mixing from FOH on an iPad. I am a happy iPad user, but the response via WiFi does not allow what I consider "mixing", nor is the reliability good enough for show conditions. It is a great tool for setting up, not for letting your whole show ride on.

Mac

I also agree with this. I also love what I can do with an iPad setting up monitors walking the room to check things with but, when you lose your wifi signal because bunch of smart phones hit your router you better have a hard wire backup because you will lose control at some point.

[Rob Spence]

But since the topic is remote head amp control and not remote mixing ...

My 01v96 doesn't have them either but it is still a great desk.

I find that I don't change head amp gain ( or trim as some say ) often after the first song. Yup, I have to make a visit to the desk once in awhile to tweak one that got too loud but it isn't a deal breaker.

On the other hand, I do prefer them.


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[Sidney Pilien]

Tried to run Studio Manager (01v96) on my mac via wifi and got too many glitches so I remote
on cat5 for set up and troubleshooting.

During service I'm on the board. And besides, you can't run the board's software on iPad anyway.

 If your gain structure is right on then you shouldn't have to reset gain so much. The only time I mess with gain is on the stereo channel when playing burnt cds. You know how that goes.

[Frank DeWitt]

I use a board that cannot control the mic pres (SAC system)  If the TYPE of input to channels doesn't change from the setup an rehearsal to the service then it works OK.   Example, the Piano mic stays on the piano.  The vocal mics are used as vocal mics,  (Different people, but for example, one of the mics doesn't get moved to the drums.) The keyboard ch stays the keyboard ch. ETC.

That works for us.  We use a tablet (PC) for setup, line checks, and to mix from the floor during the worship Team playing but during the service there is a person in the booth just in case. 

BTW if you lose WiFi it doesn't go nuts, it stays where it was. (You go nuts)

BBTW  our router is dedicated to the mixer and hidden and password protected, we do use wireless for the IEM control surfaces and have never had a problem.

[Frank DeWitt]

By head amps, are you referring to the mic preamps? I apologize but I've only been a part of the audio world for about 3 years and some terms tend to go over my head.

Yup,  Head amp = preamp = the input gain (top knob) on a analog mixer.

Oh,  and the FOH is the mix position which is usually at the back of the room that is not in a house, and the MOM is the big guy that is the Minister of Music,  At our church we get a "Video feed" to the sound board from the computer that runs ProPresenter.  We mic the podium with the boundary and the drums with the Boom except for the Kick. The Kick gets the D6.  It gets worse, our pastors name is Mike and he doesn't like to here us say "Kill Mic 1"   Oh, BTW we say "testing one two" because everyone knows not to say three.  You lift on three.

I'm done now.