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dick rees

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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #250 on: January 09, 2013, 09:45:05 am »

Help! I bought my X32 in late December 2012. I tried interfacing it with my PC laptop using firewire. It didn't work. I tried downloading the latest firmware from the website. I downloaded to 2 different USB's, inserted into USB slot on console top, restarted the console, and nothing. I put the files in the root of the USB sticks per the directions. Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #251 on: January 09, 2013, 11:20:41 am »

Help! I bought my X32 in late December 2012. I tried interfacing it with my PC laptop using firewire. It didn't work. I tried downloading the latest firmware from the website. I downloaded to 2 different USB's, inserted into USB slot on console top, restarted the console, and nothing. I put the files in the root of the USB sticks per the directions. Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #252 on: January 09, 2013, 08:00:00 pm »


That is exactly why your opinion would be valuable.

Ditto. I have mixed on all but the CL... Plus Profile, D Show, Rolands, SL 24.4.2 , LS9 and Soundcrafts.. I have my own X32 opinion which I will hold on to.
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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #253 on: January 13, 2013, 06:27:24 pm »

I ended up assigning a new IP address to my puter (Local area connection)10.0.0.1 and X32 10.0.0.2. I used 255.255.255.0 for the Gateway. Attached ethernet cable to X32/puter- and wallah!  It worked. Thanks Don Leamen!

You have to unzip the firmware 1st before placing the file in the root of your USB! I'm learning! :)
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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #254 on: January 13, 2013, 08:31:02 pm »

I ended up assigning a new IP address to my puter (Local area connection)10.0.0.1 and X32 10.0.0.2. I used 255.255.255.0 for the Gateway. Attached ethernet cable to X32/puter- and wallah!  It worked. Thanks Don Leamen!

You have to unzip the firmware 1st before placing the file in the root of your USB! I'm learning! :)

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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #255 on: January 13, 2013, 09:50:53 pm »

I ended up assigning a new IP address to my puter (Local area connection)10.0.0.1 and X32 10.0.0.2. I used 255.255.255.0 for the Gateway.

It may work, but not correctly or for the right reasons.
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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #256 on: January 15, 2013, 06:02:35 am »

It may work, but not correctly or for the right reasons.

It did work and all functions were operable so I could "play" with Xcontrol on my laptop. I have a router that I will use at shows. But, it was nice to be able to hardwire an ethernet connection and make it work. Versatility! I was simply sharing an application that worked with the forum.
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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #257 on: January 15, 2013, 09:23:06 am »

I ended up assigning a new IP address to my puter (Local area connection)10.0.0.1 and X32 10.0.0.2. I used 255.255.255.0 for the Gateway.
If by "Gateway" you mean "Subnet Mask", then this is correct.  If not, address your gateway (ie: router) within the subnet (10.0.0.x) with the 255.255.255.0 subnet mask.
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« Reply #258 on: January 15, 2013, 11:21:11 pm »

My "not for the right reasons" comment was simply due to the ethernet settings you were using, not saying the X32 can't communicate to a computer without a router.

For simplicity and compatibility purposes I would avoid having your computer on the .1 address since that is typically used by gateways within the subnet (which the 255.255.255.0 "masks" out) - If you happen to forget to set your computer back to DHCP then this will end up conflicting with your router. Another tip to that end is to use the same subnet as your router would use but outside of the DHCP assignable range. So if your router uses the 10.0.0.x subnet, typically assigning an address in the upper region, say between 10.0.0.200 and .254 is fine, in this way it will still work with your router should you forget to set the computer back to DHCP and not interfere with other devices if that happens. (My personal recommendation for that situation would be X32 at .200 and computer at .201).

If your router works in the 192.168.0.x subnet, then adjust accordingly.

(Little known fact, if you're not trying to access another "network" (ie, the internet) you can use whatever address you want for the gateway, so he could've gotten away with using 255.255.255.0 for the gateway and still have the network work, and since this was a peer-to-peer style connection I'm assuming there was no internet involved anyway.)
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Re: Oh no! The new rider friendly console!
« Reply #259 on: January 16, 2013, 12:33:52 am »

(Little known fact, if you're not trying to access another "network" (ie, the internet) you can use whatever address you want for the gateway, so he could've gotten away with using 255.255.255.0 for the gateway and still have the network work, and since this was a peer-to-peer style connection I'm assuming there was no internet involved anyway.)
While this would technically work, it's procedurally wrong.  The IP communications RCF [1918] states that private addressing should be used unless you have registered your address with the proper authority (IANA).  Stick to the private addressing ranges (10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255.255 [10/8], 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 [172.16/12], or 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 [192.168/16]).

Any device can use any address within your subnet.  I regularly see routers addressed at the beginning of subnets, at the end of subnets, and everywhere else within the subnet.  It seems fairly typical that (in home networks) routers are addressed with the x.x.x.1 addressing scheme and a 24bit subnet mask; however, in large scale networks all bets are off.  Even if all routers are to be addressed at the beginning of the subnet (as defined by company policy), there is no guarantee that the beginning of the subnet would be a x.x.x.1 address.  The subnet mask defines where the beginning and end of a subnet are.  Since subnet masks are binary (in operation), they don't translate that nicely into base10 numbers (or thinking).  Let's not forget that the first address on a subnet (x.x.x.0 for a 24bit mask) identifies the network, and the last address (x.x.x.255 for a 24bit mask) is the broadcast address - so avoid using those.

Given that most home networks are addressed on the 192.168.0/24 subnet and that most are wireless, the OP's choice to use the 10.0.0/24 subnet for the wired LAN connection is a valid one.  Address one device to 10.0.0.1 with a 255.255.255.0 mask; address the other device to 10.0.0.2 with a 255.255.255.0 mask; and enjoy the results.  Since it's using a different interface for this subnet, there should be no conflict with the connection to the wireless network.
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