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[Evan Hunter]

Are there mics specific for guitar amps? And if so, what?

Try out the EV ND408 and the EV ND 478. I prefer those over any Shure/Sennhieser mic.

[g'bye, Dick Rees]

Try out the EV ND408 and the EV ND 478. I prefer those over any Shure/Sennhieser mic.

Yes, those can do as well.  But I'll up the ante on this thread by saying that nobody has talked about where to position the microphone(s).  Just naming this or that brand/model hardly gets at the art of finding the sweet spot........

So just for fun:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/tonefiend/recording/how-to-mic-an-amppart-1-the-basics/

Audio clips........

[Rob Spence]

Right now, I am thinking that a bag full of Heil PR31's would match my style beautifully.

+1
Don't forget the "BW" on the model name so Bob Workman, FOH Engineer for Charlie Daniels, gets his credit for asking Bob Heil to build it.

[Ned Ward]

Yes, those can do as well.  But I'll up the ante on this thread by saying that nobody has talked about where to position the microphone(s).  Just naming this or that brand/model hardly gets at the art of finding the sweet spot........

So just for fun:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/tonefiend/recording/how-to-mic-an-amppart-1-the-basics/

Audio clips........

"The 906 just lays on the grill and sounds good." - partial credit?
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[/size]Great video - thanks for the link. As that video shows, the correct answer is "it depends."

[Bob Leonard]

It always "depends". It could be the front, back of an open cabinet, through a piece of plexi, 6' in front, on the grill, at an angle, off center, yada, yada.

And Chuck, there's a few I can listen to and tell you what it is in 30 seconds. Not because they're special, but because they can sound so bad.

[Chuck Simon]

It always "depends". It could be the front, back of an open cabinet, through a piece of plexi, 6' in front, on the grill, at an angle, off center, yada, yada.

And Chuck, there's a few I can listen to and tell you what it is in 30 seconds. Not because they're special, but because they can sound so bad.

I'll grant you that, but I am always more concerned about the sound being created by the guitar player than I am mic choice.

[James A. Griffin]

I'll grant you that, but I am always more concerned about the sound being created by the guitar player than I am mic choice.

+1.   No matter what the instrument (or voice) it all begins with the musician.    We can only do so much.   A Heil PR30 or Royer 121 is not gonna save a crappy player who doesn't know how to set up his amp.     An SM57 is not gonna slow down a great one.

[David Parker]

Are there mics specific for guitar amps? And if so, what?

I haven't done any ridered jobs in a while, but when I was, I can't remember a rider where an SM57 wasn't on the acceptable list for guitar cab mic.

I used E609s for quite a while, mainly because you can drape them and didn't need a mic stand. I got into some bad situations with small stages and the E609s picked up WAY too much from nearby drums and such. I switched to the i5 and have loved them ever since. In a critical listening environment, there might be subtle differences between the various mics, but doing sound on small stages, I'd choose the ability to overcome a major problem vs. a subtle difference.

[Ned Ward]

I haven't done any ridered jobs in a while, but when I was, I can't remember a rider where an SM57 wasn't on the acceptable list for guitar cab mic.

I used E609s for quite a while, mainly because you can drape them and didn't need a mic stand. I got into some bad situations with small stages and the E609s picked up WAY too much from nearby drums and such. I switched to the i5 and have loved them ever since. In a critical listening environment, there might be subtle differences between the various mics, but doing sound on small stages, I'd choose the ability to overcome a major problem vs. a subtle difference.

that's interesting; one of the reasons I liked the 906's is their rejection of everything else because they're laying on the grill. We did a 22 track recording to an Alesis HDR24 and was able to individually record the guitars - I had very good separation. And we play on small stages - usually 15-20' wide for a 7 piece band.


Wondering now if the off-axis rejection is different between the 609 and 906.

[David Parker]

that's interesting; one of the reasons I liked the 906's is their rejection of everything else because they're laying on the grill. We did a 22 track recording to an Alesis HDR24 and was able to individually record the guitars - I had very good separation. And we play on small stages - usually 15-20' wide for a 7 piece band.


Wondering now if the off-axis rejection is different between the 609 and 906.

the 609s were kicking my butt. One gig, with glass wall behind the guitar amp and drums, the floor tom was peaking the guitar cab mic. I also on occasion would get low-mid feedback from the 609 on guitar cab. I switched to the i5 and haven't had that problem again. The e609 is supposed to be cardiod, and the i5 is also cardiod, so they should be the same, but mine were not. I need to put my 609s up on ebay, I'll never use them again.

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