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kristianjohnsen

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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 04:42:44 am »

I just recorded the audio for a master class given by jazz pianist Richie Beirach who would certainly disagree with that.

He said that the "job" of the classical musician was to consistently play the piece "the SAME but GREAT" and a jazz musician's goal was to continue to play something "DIFFERENT but GREAT".

As for the whole "art" vs "craft" thing, I have always considered myself a craftsman, not an artist.  My job is to facilitate the artist in presenting their music to an audience.

PS   The more you learn about some of those German and Austrian guys 300 years ago you find a lot of them FAR from "stuffy".   A lot of them were just hustling gigs and commissions, trying to make a living and MAYBE attain some degree of fame, just like musicians nowdays.

It was tounge-in-cheek :) 

The cover bands vs original bands thing is basically a schoolyard popularity contest gone astray:  Most bands feel like if they can get people to pay to hear THEM play THEIR music, they've won.

I know many talented musicians who play in cover bands.  Some of them try to "sneak in" some originals during a set "to see how it works".  Sadly, it's a completely different crowd.  If a musician starts down the road of cover band muso it's very hard to change rails and become "known".  A better bet, if one were to consider things from a career standpoint only, would probably be to work as session muso for "Bands that have the name of the lead singer" and then go solo.  At least there will be a well-know name in the release-promo package...

PS.  Some of the "stuffy" guys were teenagers :)

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Steve Hurt

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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 05:16:41 pm »

This one I just don't get.  There's a snobbery amongst original musicians towards cover bands.  At least in my area there is, and some things I read online.

Original band all but one guy play someone else's song

Cover band all of them play someone else's song


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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 10:19:53 pm »

Original band all but one guy play someone else's song

Cover band all of them play someone else's song
Steve! That's the best yet! My wife and I are both laughing over that one - Thanks!
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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 01:08:57 am »

Also, it doesn't require nearly as much, (if any), talent to do original music. You can't make a mistake in an original song. "I meant to do that".
Only very talented bands can play covers correctly. Anyone can play an original....Even a monkee.
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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 03:15:41 am »

Also, it doesn't require nearly as much, (if any), talent to do original music. You can't make a mistake in an original song. "I meant to do that".
Only very talented bands can play covers correctly. Anyone can play an original....Even a monkee.

   Some of the Monkees were very talented.

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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 03:20:33 am »

Original band all but one guy play someone else's song

Cover band all of them play someone else's song

 Steve, a part-time job writing for a Fortune Cookie company ?   ;)

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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 10:46:05 am »

Also, it doesn't require nearly as much, (if any), talent to do original music. You can't make a mistake in an original song. "I meant to do that".
Only very talented bands can play covers correctly. Anyone can play an original....Even a monkee.

For the recordings, most of the Monkee's material was performed by session players.  The cast did the vox.  In live performance the band played on their own.

As Hammer points out, the individuals in the Monkees came to the show with existing talent and experience (although the latter wasn't consistent on the instruments they played for the show).

They had Boyce and Hart writing the songs, 2 of the best resident writers at Columbia-Screen Gems.  That doesn't hurt a bit...
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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 10:55:54 am »

For the recordings, most of the Monkee's material was performed by session players.  The cast did the vox.  In live performance the band played on their own.

As Hammer points out, the individuals in the Monkees came to the show with existing talent and experience (although the latter wasn't consistent on the instruments they played for the show).

They had Boyce and Hart writing the songs, 2 of the best resident writers at Columbia-Screen Gems.  That doesn't hurt a bit...

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     and some of the Monkees became very good friends with many of the groups/musicians of the 1960s including at least one (Peter Tork) recording with with the Beatles.   

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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 11:00:27 am »

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     and some of the Monkees became very good friends with many of the groups/musicians of the 1960s including at least one (Peter Tork) recording with with the Beatles.   

   Hammer

It's my understanding that Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees, and was passed on because he had bad teeth.  Glad he ended up w/CSN(&Y) instead!
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Re: Why do original musicians hate cover bands?
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 01:35:33 pm »

For the recordings, most of the Monkee's material was performed by session players.  The cast did the vox.  In live performance the band played on their own.

As Hammer points out, the individuals in the Monkees came to the show with existing talent and experience (although the latter wasn't consistent on the instruments they played for the show).

They had Boyce and Hart writing the songs, 2 of the best resident writers at Columbia-Screen Gems.  That doesn't hurt a bit...

Very common, at least in the US during those years, was Hal Blaine's "Wrecking Crew".


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